'I will refuse to accept a national ID card'

Pledge “NationalID”

"I will refuse to accept a national ID card but only if 999 other people will do the same."

— Kat Dillon, Dissident (contact)

Deadline to sign up by: 31^st December 2008
889 people signed up, 110 more were needed

Country: United States

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The Real ID Act goes into effect in 2008. If it is implemented in my state, I will cut up my driver's license and refuse to accept a national ID card. Real ID mandates that states include biometric data in machine readable format in their driver's licenses, and that all your personal infomation be linked in a national database. The machine readable technology is likely to be RFID, which is very insecure. Identity theft would be rampant under this plan.

National ID has always been a hallmark of a police state. Its purpose is to control us, not to protect us. Join with us in refusing to accept the police state.

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I don't find anything that evil in carrying a national ID card. And even if I did, I don't believe any pledge would make a change. Still, good luck for those who are trying and fighting for their ideas.
Steve Jones, 3 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I too will refuse, whatever the outcome of this pledge. I am innocent and therefore do not want to be finger-printed and iris scanned. The argument that goes "if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear" that I keep hearing makes me sick! De Menzes had nothing to hide and he was the first visible victim of our near totalitarian police state. We were told lies by those in authority, tapes were seized and no one is being held accountable for his murder! This issue is equally life or death in importance. - thats right!
Pozycjonowanie, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Good pledge. Good luck!
Lonny, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I don't want the Brits to have to endure a National ID either. I don't mind if you sign the pledge. Grretings
Aukcje, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I will use my passport for identification purposes and not renew my liscence in a Real ID state if this goes into effect as currently planned.
Eleanor, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I affraid that soon the word Privacy will change it's meant...
Horoskop, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Hey if it comes to were we have to cut our cards. Let's mass together and tell the local/national news about us cutting our cards. At the very least have a youtube video showing us cutting our cards even if we aren't together. Showing others to stand up for themselves. They are not alone!
Ron Paul 2008
Travis Shultz, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I refuse to be held subject to unwarranted I.D. checks. If this Act is passed then we are one step closer to a police state...

Its high time we stand up to this government by ANY means necessary!
Chase Nalley, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Let me get this straight: All of you are going to stop driving, or refuse to carry drivers licenses? Why? I mean aside from it being an on principle inappropriate intrusion on state authority it's really just a simplification and standardization of drivers license standards. Instead of 50 different flavors of inadequately secure identification documents, you have only 1 flavor.
Oday Juarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Yes one flavor control by few in power.
Mark my words, just like you have to use your SS# if your going to open a bank account. You will have use your National ID # (with your RFID chip) will be used for things it wasn't original meant too (like new currently card if America dollar crashes). But by then if you step out of line or look different then the ones in control. You be easy to take care of.
Hey doesn't one flavor taste so good!
Travis Shultz, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Ok. So what?

RFID...

Oooh. Sounds scary. If you're scared of RFID, you already failed the litmus test on how well you'd fair going underground. I'll be worried when they ban chemicals and electronics components. Censorship even moreso. Until then, hackers will always be above the law.

You do realize that your cellphone has a unique ESN that it is broadcasting at regular intervals right? And that your car has a unique license plate and VIN that can easily be tied back to you with only as much plausible deniablity as the obscurification of your face as you drive under traffic cameras.

How about Onstar which is broadcasting your car location everywhere you go with a microphone built in to the car?

How about Sonitrol Alarm company which has microphones distributed throughout the building?

So what's the drama again? What's the difference between turning off your phone and wrapping your ID in tin foil and "forgetting your wallet at home"? When you have something to hide: know how to hide it.

If you don't know how to do that, I have no sympathy for the crocodile tears of those who only care enough to object, but not enough to stay one step ahead.

You can't keep up? Don't expect my sympathy. I make it a point to, and if 10 years down the line I choose to frame you like a christmas present wrapped up nicely in incriminating evidence from the technology you didn't care enough to understand, I'll do it, and you'll hang, and you can't stop this, because your fellow sheep don't care enough about the possiblity of my existence.

It's so bad I can just be bold faced and make a comment like this and it won't make a bit of difference.

You let yourself get blindsided. Prepare for ownage beotch.
OdayJuarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Scary of RFID? No I'm not.
It's the >>person behind it<< we should be careful of.
Second I'm not going underground, why should I?
I have nothing to hide.
Wow your really open my eyes 'Don't expect my sympathy.' I had no idea cars had different unique license plate and VIN /end sarcasm
Lastly and most importantly I don't want or need your SYMPATHY.
I'm ready, for your sake hopefully you are.
(btw
Do you realize I don't have cellphone, OnStar? Do you think I should? lol)
Travis Shultz, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
If you have nothing to hide you shouldn't care. If you're not prepared to go underground it's just a matter of dignity. I don't really see much of that in being a dog to your government in every sense except getting to choose your flavor of dog tags. You have no argument.
Oday Juarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Yet I do care. lol
So what's your argument with me again?
Are you mad at me not accepting the National ID?
Travis Shultz, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I call bullshit on the pledge. It's a dumb protest for no reason other than preserving in your own mind some semblance of dignity. They pressure you and you'll fold. They all do.

You want to go on record as having objected so that someday, when the secret police are running around bagging random asshole cowards, you can think yourself superior and blame everyone else for your situation. Worst case scenerio that day never comes in which case you pat yourself on the back for fighting the good fight and saving all those ignorant bastards.

My grief is with your entire type who challenges government authority and rebel in symbolic and useless ways. Don't try and shoulder your way in on a piece of the glory. You don't deserve it. You are a dissenter poser.

Of course, I take all this back if you have at the very least an unregistered arms stockpile. Two guns and I forgive you. Bonus points for glassware and chemicals. Those are the obvious ones.

The list goes on and on, but if you have it then you know already so disclosing my shopping list is hardly in either of our interests. Stay capable for mere capabilities sake. Then teach, because it's not worth the productivity sacrifice to cover your tracks in the pursuit of knowledge. You may be the first against the wall as a threat, but you gave birth to the capability of 100 in the process.

Learn the routes of the spy sattelites now while you can. When worse comes to worst, you need to be able to trust in the secrecy of your movements.

http://www.heavens-above.com/
Oday Juarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
You don't know me so be careful of your words about folding.
I don't care if I'm on the record for this because I understand. Yes if we lose it will bite me on the butt but it will give others time to hide. lol
I have three choices. But only really two.
Do nothing and pretend it not going to happen. Two, well... lol I'm not that dumb. (not saying i'm smart either lol)
Three to try stop this thing before it hits TPONR.
Oday Juarez this is my last post here. How about we save the rest of the posting stuff for anyone else from here on out?
btw beware your site doesn't have them all, just the heads up ;)
Travis Shultz, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Sounds good.

Your posts were in fact refreshing.

I'll keep that in mind and will make it a point to fill in the gaps when I have time. Lots of projects, and I have astronomer friends who I figured could help solve that problem as it arose.

Hopefully we'll never have to work together as comrades against a common enemy. Not because you don't seem worthy. ;)

Looking forward to what challenges the future brings.

Cheers,
Oday.
Oday Juarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
National ID has always been a hallmark of a police state.
myspace proxies, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Great pledge! I'd encourage you to use the tools found in the yellow box on your pledge page to promote your pledge using flyers, MySpace, and blogs. PledgeBank also just launched a Facebook application (found at http://apps.facebook.com/pledgebank/); you can use that to invite friends to sign your pledge.

Good luck!
Heather, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
While it's true that many of our privacy freedoms are being taken away day by day (in the western world, that is) aren't you being a little paranoid? I have to laugh at those who think that this sort of thing is the mark of the beast and a sign that the New World Order is on its way, ready for the antichrist to take over and rule the world. It's just an ID card, for goodness sake. It may take away one freedom, only to give you another. If you have better ideas in getting rid of terrorism, it may be good of you rather to promote those ideas rather than just moaning about what the police-state enthusiasts have come up with (maybe, at least, they're trying to make a difference.)
Cash, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
"If you have better ideas in getting rid of terrorism,"

Why on earth would I want to do that? I don't want to live in a country where a dedicated son of a bitch can't kill a couple hundred to a thousand people. If a country has that tight of a lockdown on the 300,000,000 people that live there, they all might aswell be dead.

If not a single man in an entire country has the capability of killing 1,000+ people, that is a country of defanged tigers enslaved and trapped in cages.

This country wasn't founded with a second ammendment so that it would be safe from terrorism!
Oday Juarez, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Papers please!

Sound familiar anyone???

Oh and whats up with them rebuilding fema camps. God help us all
danielle mascio, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I will die first before I let anybody plant that disgusting thing in me.

This isn't the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany (same thing: STATIST/Big Government)!

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com
Robert Liberty, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I will be resisting the ID card and microchip. The governments of this world underestimate the silent majority of christians who read their bibles on a weekly basis. Though we may not be protesting in the streets, when the time comes, we will resist.
Robert, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Thanks for this very good article … Can i translate this and insert on my site in Poland? … Thanks
Księgarnia internetowa, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
we started this dream over 200 years ago - it has taken just as long to destroy it. in the end the states may no longer be united after this mess is over.

how does this prevent terrorism? how will this prevent another 9/11? terrorists can't get one of these, or figure out how to fake one? terrorists had all required paper work when they flew on 9/11, so what's this for exactly? if you don't take one does that mean you may be considered a terrorist? if you are, the patriot act allows you to be arrested, convicted, questioned, interrogated, tortured, all with out a trial or jury...would you die for this cause - to not carry an ID card? would you fight and die for your freedom?
would you die for it, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
WAKE UP This is the FIRST STEP toward the Mark of the Beast. We are WARNED to refuse this mark on pain of death.

Even if you are non-religious, WHY should we be FORCED by the Police State to carry 'our papers' with us at all times? I bet this thing will have our religious association on it, too! What if Jews prefer NOT to have tattoos or marks on their body? WHY should they be forced to wear clothes with a star of david on it? WHY should ANY human be forced to give their personal information to a tyrannical government?

Read the Bible--Listen to Bob Marley--Pray for Peace and an end to War, Violence, and Racism--these three are THEIR tactics to DIVIDE AND CONQUER God's people from each other.
A. Dissident, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Gotta play the game if you want anything done. support Ron Paul!

I will resist the RealID bullshit card
Lewis, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I like my privacy a lot.
Big Dicks, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Everyone should fight id cards.
seo, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I never thought I would be agreeing with the Christians who think this card is part of the "mark of the beast," but here I am. I think this card steps over the boundaries of what is acceptable due to the excessive monitoring capabilities that are built in to the card.

There is no security-related purpose to this. If the idea is that we can track down one terrorist who was able to commit a crime on our soil, then that simply overstates the uselessness of the entire concept. You cannot use government tracking to find everybody who would wish harm to our nation. There will always be more as long as our foreign policy continues in this manner. There will never be a way to track every warm body that enters this patch of soil, large as she is, and with 12 million illegal immigrants here now, what's the point anyway? We're clearly never going to be able to find the people who don't want to be found.

Those of you who align with the "if you have nothing to hide" attitude need to read the statements of Thomas Jefferson. It isn't freedom if you have to justify it to yourself to feel it.
Robert Samples, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
http://www.KatherineAlbrecht.com

http://SpyChips.com

http://FreedomToFascism.com

http://ZeitgeistMovie.com

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Katherine is co-author of "Spychips: How Major Corporations Plan to Track your Every Move with RFID." Two days prior to its release, Spychips flew the top of the Amazon bestseller charts. Katherine is also the director of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering), an organization she founded in 1999 to advocate free-market, consumer-based solutions to the problem of retail privacy invasion.

Katherine is widely recognized as one of the world's leading experts on consumer privacy. She regularly speaks on the consumer privacy and civil liberties impacts of new technologies, with an emphasis on RFID and retail issues. She has testified on RFID technology before the Federal Trade Commission, state legislatures, the European Commission, and the Federal Reserve Bank, and she has given over a thousand television, radio and print interviews to news outlets all over the world. Her efforts have been featured on CNN, NPR, the CBS Evening News, Business Week, and the London Times, to name just a few.

Join the discussion:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/12519
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
http://offthegridgirls.wordpress.com/rfi...

http://www.antichips.com/press-releases/...
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Naomi Wolf on the current state of tyranny - MUST SEE/RESEARCH/VIEW
http://www.911blogger.com/node/12610

Please watch:

www.WKJO.com

www.911PressForTruth.com and their new on the same site called "In Their Own Words" (stories of Jersey Girls)

www.WhatIsTheEndGame.com

www.RonPaulTV.com

www.RonPaul2008.com

www.TeaParty07.com

www.TruthNetRadio.com

www.AE911Truth.org

www.PatriotsQuestion911.com

Every thinking human simply must get these under your belt before you can draw any logical conclusions. Conspiracies are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. Facts cry out for theories. Theories are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is irrational and highly implausible with a "low chance of probability". This begs the question, do the alternative theories fit into the puzzle better? Keep watching documentaries and consider all sides because, "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
We have a National DNA Database with
over 4.5 million people on it 1,000000 of which are INNOCENT people here in the UK, I urge my American cousins not to go down the road that the UK has, we have CCTV on high steel posts in every small town we have number plate recognition cameras on every main road keeping track of ever car movement in the UK for 5 years, do you want to turn into the Orwellian nightmare that Britain has???
Think Carefully America!
Chris Buckley, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
Yea, I know. Technology is great. Until the government gets hold of it and finds reasons to screw up great ideas.
rickfromUSA, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
This is just one more step towards a police state. A government that can track you everywhere you go is a government that needs to monitor and control its people. That's why we're fighting this kind of thing in NH with the Free State Project.
www.pledgebank.com/Next1000
Albert "Max" Abramson, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." ~ Calvin Coolidge

Ron Paul, perhaps a final warning to apathetic Americans that Our forgotten legacy of a Republic is at risk. Our Liberties and our Currency ... all are collapsing.

Learn the elemental difference between a Democracy and a Republic. A precise, clear film about what's at risk; why, and the urgent demand for action.

History, it would seem, is about ready to repeat itself, with yet another doomed Empire that simply over-extended and economically collapsed from within. Similarly evident to all from the outside, but completely obscured to the citizenry who are about to perish. The Romans call to America from their graves............WAKE UP!

There are lots of good movements around the world for peace and justice, but most are just picking scales off of a dragon. Limited government, protection of the individual and 9/11 truth will be the only ways for us to protect the liberty of our children and the rest of the earth.

A film everyone should show their entire families and communities ASAP:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Pa...

"Who Are These Kooks?"
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cb...
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
USA is a constitutional republic not democracy. We are not governed by the majority of the people but by the rule of law. The rule of law protects the minority and weak from the tyranny of the majority. We all have inalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. If the majority of the people want security and is willing to sacrifice liberty, the government still cannot infringe on the rights of the majority nor minority. Democracies are mob rule.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

Freedom: Two very hungry wolves looking for dinner and finding a very well-informed and well-armed sheep.

"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference." - Ron Paul

Take action everyday and every 11th. EMA: educate, motivate, activate. Many hands make light work.

Consider joining forces with those who try to prevent history from repeating itself. Become a student of history. We know of no better way to predict the future than by the past.

http://TruthAction.org
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I don't want the Brits to have to endure a National ID either. I don't mind if you sign the pledge :)
alveo, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
ID Plan Is Broadly Criticized
Bipartisan Objections Cite Security, Costs and Privacy

By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 12, 2008; A02

A new Bush administration plan to create national
standards for driver's licenses drew heavy criticism
yesterday from civil liberties groups, some Republican
and Democratic lawmakers, governors, and the travel
industry.

The critics said the new licenses anticipated under
the plan, which is aimed at screening out potential
terrorists and uncovering illegal immigrants, could
still be forged. They also complained that the
program, known as Real ID, would be costly for states
to implement, potentially restrict summer travel, and
allow private companies access to the personal data of
most U.S. citizens.

But they also welcomed yesterday's official
announcement that states have until May 2011 before
they need to begin issuing licenses that meet the
department's new guidelines, and until December 2014
to begin replacing current licenses. Drivers over the
age of 50 will not have to obtain new licenses until
the end of 2017.

The deadline extensions give both Congress and future
presidents time to reconsider what opponents have
depicted as a national identification system that will
infringe on privacy rights and leave room for
large-scale identity theft.

continues below...
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
...continued from above:

"DHS has kicked the can down the road to the next
administration, and conceivably the next two or three
administrations," said Barry Steinhardt, a lawyer with
the American Civil Liberties Union. Already, 17 states
have said they would either refuse to issue the new
licenses or have asked Congress to repeal a 2005 law
that required states to collect and store additional
data on driver's license applicants, such as birth
certificates, Social Security numbers and home
addresses.

Under Real ID, all new licenses would be
machine-readable and contain personal information that
could be scanned by governments and potentially by
corporations.

At a news conference yesterday, Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff said the guidelines
represent a balance between security and privacy in
accordance with the Real ID Act. He warned that
residents in states such as Georgia and Washington,
which have refused to comply with the program, may be
subject to additional security checks or prevented
from boarding flights once the program begins this
spring.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
chucksheen, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I won't accept it even if I'm the only one.

I'm quite serious.
Luke Gledhill, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
I would'nt accept it, even if it was truly secure. So many hackers these days can find out lots of things. What if you lose the card? You lose everything. With that, you are more secure carrying a bunch of cards, it lowers the chances of them getting it. But one thing that would be cool is if certain things were put on a chip and embedded somewhere like on a forearm. I dont think this pledge will stop the goverment or anything, but then again, we might only see the beginning of things like this in years to come.
xGAx, 2 years ago. Abusive? Report it!
My name is Paul David Beard, I am a prominent young businessman from south london. As well as a self confessed entrepreneur, I love life, my family and friends and doing what I can to better society. But if this insane legistlation requirement ever comes to pass I will publicy refuse to endorse to the point of indefinite imprisonment. This is not a future I have envisaged for Britain and its people, nor any other people of the world.
We must oppose this dreadful depiction of our future now, that has been painted by central government and our central banking system.

Feel free to contact me if you share any degree of my opinion.
pdb@pixel-gear.com
Paul.
Paul David Beard, 23 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
Ok I am totally against RFID chips backed by the Bilderberger Group.
The Real Deal is us we have to help each other inform each other. Like those two guys on here arguing back in forth one thrashing the next because he may be misinformed well instead of bashing we could try enlightening those who don’t know. In the end if there is to be a fight we will need each other the common man and women to fight together. Check my pledge NoToTheAmeiro. Its a bought the next phase in this big plan it is the North American Union and it will help form Three powerful states the European union Asian pacific union and our north American union.They plan to take away most of our freedoms then using eugenics to exterminate most of the population I.E. China,Natzi's (population control)This union will also make our constitution noll in void.Feel free to contact me on This issue or If I can assist in anyway you plan on fighting back ovenhotstudios@yahoo.com
Sheff Dizzle, 22 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
http://freedomnetwork08.blogspot.com/
The Freedom Network, 22 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
The greatest threat to civil liberties since the last time they were abolished in the UK.

Anyone reading this thread who hasn't researched this subject properly should do so NOW.

If you've got 'nothing to fear', then you should have no problem getting educated.
ID Cards Suck, 21 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
If anyone wants to try to stop the ID card in the first place, write to your MP! And please sign this pledge:
http://www.pledgebank.com/libertynotterror

Please sign the pledge and let our MPs know our dissatisfaction.
Tom Kaneko, 19 months ago. Abusive? Report it!
Peoople if you havent found these sites by now, here are the best ones

www.prisonplanet.com
www.infowars.com
www.plisonplanet.tv
www.letsroll911.org
www.whatreallyhappened.com
www.wearechange.org
www.pnacitizen.org
www.911proof.com

as far as that id card they can kiss my AMERICAN ARSE i will not take it
Paul, 19 months ago. Abusive? Report it!