"I will refuse to accept a national ID card but only if 999 other people will do the same."
— Kat Dillon, Dissident (contact)
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Country: United States
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The Real ID Act goes into effect in 2008. If it is implemented in my state, I will cut up my driver's license and refuse to accept a national ID card. Real ID mandates that states include biometric data in machine readable format in their driver's licenses, and that all your personal infomation be linked in a national database. The machine readable technology is likely to be RFID, which is very insecure. Identity theft would be rampant under this plan.
National ID has always been a hallmark of a police state. Its purpose is to control us, not to protect us. Join with us in refusing to accept the police state.
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Ron Paul 2008
Its high time we stand up to this government by ANY means necessary!
Mark my words, just like you have to use your SS# if your going to open a bank account. You will have use your National ID # (with your RFID chip) will be used for things it wasn't original meant too (like new currently card if America dollar crashes). But by then if you step out of line or look different then the ones in control. You be easy to take care of.
Hey doesn't one flavor taste so good!
RFID...
Oooh. Sounds scary. If you're scared of RFID, you already failed the litmus test on how well you'd fair going underground. I'll be worried when they ban chemicals and electronics components. Censorship even moreso. Until then, hackers will always be above the law.
You do realize that your cellphone has a unique ESN that it is broadcasting at regular intervals right? And that your car has a unique license plate and VIN that can easily be tied back to you with only as much plausible deniablity as the obscurification of your face as you drive under traffic cameras.
How about Onstar which is broadcasting your car location everywhere you go with a microphone built in to the car?
How about Sonitrol Alarm company which has microphones distributed throughout the building?
So what's the drama again? What's the difference between turning off your phone and wrapping your ID in tin foil and "forgetting your wallet at home"? When you have something to hide: know how to hide it.
If you don't know how to do that, I have no sympathy for the crocodile tears of those who only care enough to object, but not enough to stay one step ahead.
You can't keep up? Don't expect my sympathy. I make it a point to, and if 10 years down the line I choose to frame you like a christmas present wrapped up nicely in incriminating evidence from the technology you didn't care enough to understand, I'll do it, and you'll hang, and you can't stop this, because your fellow sheep don't care enough about the possiblity of my existence.
It's so bad I can just be bold faced and make a comment like this and it won't make a bit of difference.
You let yourself get blindsided. Prepare for ownage beotch.
It's the >>person behind it<< we should be careful of.
Second I'm not going underground, why should I?
I have nothing to hide.
Wow your really open my eyes 'Don't expect my sympathy.' I had no idea cars had different unique license plate and VIN /end sarcasm
Lastly and most importantly I don't want or need your SYMPATHY.
I'm ready, for your sake hopefully you are.
(btw
Do you realize I don't have cellphone, OnStar? Do you think I should? lol)
So what's your argument with me again?
Are you mad at me not accepting the National ID?
You want to go on record as having objected so that someday, when the secret police are running around bagging random asshole cowards, you can think yourself superior and blame everyone else for your situation. Worst case scenerio that day never comes in which case you pat yourself on the back for fighting the good fight and saving all those ignorant bastards.
My grief is with your entire type who challenges government authority and rebel in symbolic and useless ways. Don't try and shoulder your way in on a piece of the glory. You don't deserve it. You are a dissenter poser.
Of course, I take all this back if you have at the very least an unregistered arms stockpile. Two guns and I forgive you. Bonus points for glassware and chemicals. Those are the obvious ones.
The list goes on and on, but if you have it then you know already so disclosing my shopping list is hardly in either of our interests. Stay capable for mere capabilities sake. Then teach, because it's not worth the productivity sacrifice to cover your tracks in the pursuit of knowledge. You may be the first against the wall as a threat, but you gave birth to the capability of 100 in the process.
Learn the routes of the spy sattelites now while you can. When worse comes to worst, you need to be able to trust in the secrecy of your movements.
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I don't care if I'm on the record for this because I understand. Yes if we lose it will bite me on the butt but it will give others time to hide. lol
I have three choices. But only really two.
Do nothing and pretend it not going to happen. Two, well... lol I'm not that dumb. (not saying i'm smart either lol)
Three to try stop this thing before it hits TPONR.
Oday Juarez this is my last post here. How about we save the rest of the posting stuff for anyone else from here on out?
btw beware your site doesn't have them all, just the heads up ;)
Your posts were in fact refreshing.
I'll keep that in mind and will make it a point to fill in the gaps when I have time. Lots of projects, and I have astronomer friends who I figured could help solve that problem as it arose.
Hopefully we'll never have to work together as comrades against a common enemy. Not because you don't seem worthy. ;)
Looking forward to what challenges the future brings.
Cheers,
Oday.
Good luck!
Why on earth would I want to do that? I don't want to live in a country where a dedicated son of a bitch can't kill a couple hundred to a thousand people. If a country has that tight of a lockdown on the 300,000,000 people that live there, they all might aswell be dead.
If not a single man in an entire country has the capability of killing 1,000+ people, that is a country of defanged tigers enslaved and trapped in cages.
This country wasn't founded with a second ammendment so that it would be safe from terrorism!
Sound familiar anyone???
Oh and whats up with them rebuilding fema camps. God help us all
This isn't the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany (same thing: STATIST/Big Government)!
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com
how does this prevent terrorism? how will this prevent another 9/11? terrorists can't get one of these, or figure out how to fake one? terrorists had all required paper work when they flew on 9/11, so what's this for exactly? if you don't take one does that mean you may be considered a terrorist? if you are, the patriot act allows you to be arrested, convicted, questioned, interrogated, tortured, all with out a trial or jury...would you die for this cause - to not carry an ID card? would you fight and die for your freedom?
Even if you are non-religious, WHY should we be FORCED by the Police State to carry 'our papers' with us at all times? I bet this thing will have our religious association on it, too! What if Jews prefer NOT to have tattoos or marks on their body? WHY should they be forced to wear clothes with a star of david on it? WHY should ANY human be forced to give their personal information to a tyrannical government?
Read the Bible--Listen to Bob Marley--Pray for Peace and an end to War, Violence, and Racism--these three are THEIR tactics to DIVIDE AND CONQUER God's people from each other.
I will resist the RealID bullshit card
There is no security-related purpose to this. If the idea is that we can track down one terrorist who was able to commit a crime on our soil, then that simply overstates the uselessness of the entire concept. You cannot use government tracking to find everybody who would wish harm to our nation. There will always be more as long as our foreign policy continues in this manner. There will never be a way to track every warm body that enters this patch of soil, large as she is, and with 12 million illegal immigrants here now, what's the point anyway? We're clearly never going to be able to find the people who don't want to be found.
Those of you who align with the "if you have nothing to hide" attitude need to read the statements of Thomas Jefferson. It isn't freedom if you have to justify it to yourself to feel it.
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Katherine is co-author of "Spychips: How Major Corporations Plan to Track your Every Move with RFID." Two days prior to its release, Spychips flew the top of the Amazon bestseller charts. Katherine is also the director of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering), an organization she founded in 1999 to advocate free-market, consumer-based solutions to the problem of retail privacy invasion.
Katherine is widely recognized as one of the world's leading experts on consumer privacy. She regularly speaks on the consumer privacy and civil liberties impacts of new technologies, with an emphasis on RFID and retail issues. She has testified on RFID technology before the Federal Trade Commission, state legislatures, the European Commission, and the Federal Reserve Bank, and she has given over a thousand television, radio and print interviews to news outlets all over the world. Her efforts have been featured on CNN, NPR, the CBS Evening News, Business Week, and the London Times, to name just a few.
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Every thinking human simply must get these under your belt before you can draw any logical conclusions. Conspiracies are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. Facts cry out for theories. Theories are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is irrational and highly implausible with a "low chance of probability". This begs the question, do the alternative theories fit into the puzzle better? Keep watching documentaries and consider all sides because, "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
over 4.5 million people on it 1,000000 of which are INNOCENT people here in the UK, I urge my American cousins not to go down the road that the UK has, we have CCTV on high steel posts in every small town we have number plate recognition cameras on every main road keeping track of ever car movement in the UK for 5 years, do you want to turn into the Orwellian nightmare that Britain has???
Think Carefully America!
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Ron Paul, perhaps a final warning to apathetic Americans that Our forgotten legacy of a Republic is at risk. Our Liberties and our Currency ... all are collapsing.
Learn the elemental difference between a Democracy and a Republic. A precise, clear film about what's at risk; why, and the urgent demand for action.
History, it would seem, is about ready to repeat itself, with yet another doomed Empire that simply over-extended and economically collapsed from within. Similarly evident to all from the outside, but completely obscured to the citizenry who are about to perish. The Romans call to America from their graves............WAKE UP!
There are lots of good movements around the world for peace and justice, but most are just picking scales off of a dragon. Limited government, protection of the individual and 9/11 truth will be the only ways for us to protect the liberty of our children and the rest of the earth.
A film everyone should show their entire families and communities ASAP:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Pa...
"Who Are These Kooks?"
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cb...
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
Freedom: Two very hungry wolves looking for dinner and finding a very well-informed and well-armed sheep.
"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference." - Ron Paul
Take action everyday and every 11th. EMA: educate, motivate, activate. Many hands make light work.
Consider joining forces with those who try to prevent history from repeating itself. Become a student of history. We know of no better way to predict the future than by the past.
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Bipartisan Objections Cite Security, Costs and Privacy
By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 12, 2008; A02
A new Bush administration plan to create national
standards for driver's licenses drew heavy criticism
yesterday from civil liberties groups, some Republican
and Democratic lawmakers, governors, and the travel
industry.
The critics said the new licenses anticipated under
the plan, which is aimed at screening out potential
terrorists and uncovering illegal immigrants, could
still be forged. They also complained that the
program, known as Real ID, would be costly for states
to implement, potentially restrict summer travel, and
allow private companies access to the personal data of
most U.S. citizens.
But they also welcomed yesterday's official
announcement that states have until May 2011 before
they need to begin issuing licenses that meet the
department's new guidelines, and until December 2014
to begin replacing current licenses. Drivers over the
age of 50 will not have to obtain new licenses until
the end of 2017.
The deadline extensions give both Congress and future
presidents time to reconsider what opponents have
depicted as a national identification system that will
infringe on privacy rights and leave room for
large-scale identity theft.
continues below...
"DHS has kicked the can down the road to the next
administration, and conceivably the next two or three
administrations," said Barry Steinhardt, a lawyer with
the American Civil Liberties Union. Already, 17 states
have said they would either refuse to issue the new
licenses or have asked Congress to repeal a 2005 law
that required states to collect and store additional
data on driver's license applicants, such as birth
certificates, Social Security numbers and home
addresses.
Under Real ID, all new licenses would be
machine-readable and contain personal information that
could be scanned by governments and potentially by
corporations.
At a news conference yesterday, Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff said the guidelines
represent a balance between security and privacy in
accordance with the Real ID Act. He warned that
residents in states such as Georgia and Washington,
which have refused to comply with the program, may be
subject to additional security checks or prevented
from boarding flights once the program begins this
spring.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
I'm quite serious.
We must oppose this dreadful depiction of our future now, that has been painted by central government and our central banking system.
Feel free to contact me if you share any degree of my opinion.
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Paul.
The Real Deal is us we have to help each other inform each other. Like those two guys on here arguing back in forth one thrashing the next because he may be misinformed well instead of bashing we could try enlightening those who don’t know. In the end if there is to be a fight we will need each other the common man and women to fight together. Check my pledge NoToTheAmeiro. Its a bought the next phase in this big plan it is the North American Union and it will help form Three powerful states the European union Asian pacific union and our north American union.They plan to take away most of our freedoms then using eugenics to exterminate most of the population I.E. China,Natzi's (population control)This union will also make our constitution noll in void.Feel free to contact me on This issue or If I can assist in anyway you plan on fighting back ovenhotstudios@yahoo.com
Anyone reading this thread who hasn't researched this subject properly should do so NOW.
If you've got 'nothing to fear', then you should have no problem getting educated.
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as far as that id card they can kiss my AMERICAN ARSE i will not take it